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[TRNSYS-users] urgent: PC gain!
- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:00:29 +0100
- From: "Pietro Filippi" <P.Filippi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [TRNSYS-users] urgent: PC gain!
Title: Messaggio
hi to 
all!
I urgently need to 
know what internal gain assign for PC. We know new computers are much more 
powerful (as processor) and new LCD monitors "sucks" few 
electricity.
 
En example (from 
tech data on their back):
traditional monitor: 
220V x 2.5A = 625We
LCD monitor: 220V x 
1.5A = 330We (but a shop catalogue gives 40-50W power consumption for a similar 
LCD!..).
 
(an LCD is 
approximately 50% saving...right? but if I touch a traditional monitor I feel it 
is actually pretty warm while the LCD one is at ambient temperature! It would 
seem less than -50% consuming (as thermal gain I mean...). And in any case the 
electricity charge it is not totally dissipated in heat...)
 
...so can anybody 
tell me an average reasonable thermal dissipation? for LCD monitor and 
PC?
 
thanks in 
advance
Pietro
 
PS
well, according to 
the following report found on internet (from CERN in 
Switzerland)
 
but getting the 
total consumption and dissipation from it is not clear...
 
 
PC power 
consumption
 
 
Bernd 
Panzer-Steindel, CERN/IT/ADC
30.07.2002
 
 
  - Power supply efficiency is 
  about 70 % ==    70 W 
  effective power needs 100 W input power
 
 
  - Mainboard + power supply + 
  harddisk under load consume on a dual cpu board
            
(PIII 1 GHz) up to 100 W more (variation of up to 30 % depended on the 
motherboard  
            
and power supply) 
 
 
  - The latest dual cpu Itanium 2 
  box from HP requires  about 700 
  Watts of input power
 
  - Ratio of SpecInt95 versus 
  SpecInt2000 is about 0.1       1 
  SpecInt95 = 10 SpecInt2000
 
  - Disk power consumption is about 
  10 W at idle time and 30 W at startup  
  (120 GB EIDE disk)
 
 
  - Estimated needs for LHC 
  computing in 2007 is    
  2.3 million  SpecInt95 and 
  3100 TB
à   at a ratio of  10 SpecInt2000 / Watt   ==  2.3 MW power for the CPU 
server
à   with 1 TB disks at 30 W                     
==  0.1 
MW
       but 
scaling not yet really checked       
current   GB/W 
curve
 
 
  - PIII   Northwood (0.18 um)  256 KB L2                          
  == 28 million transistors
            
PIII   Willamette (0.13 
um)  256 KB L2                          
== 28 million transistors
            
PIV   (0.18 um)  256 KB L2                                             
==  42 million 
transistors
            
PIV   (0.13 um)  512 KB L2                   
                          ==  55 million 
transistors
            
Itanium 2  Mcinley (0.18 um) 
256 KB L2 + 3 MB L3     
==  220 million 
transistors
            
Itanium 2  Maddison (0.13 um) 
256 KB L2 + 6 MB L3   ==  500 million 
transistors
            
(L3 on chip !) à power
 
 
 

 
 
 
Ing. Pietro 
Filippi
Nier Ingegneria 
SpA
www.niering.it
Via Altabella 3, 
40126 Bologna
tel: +39 051234359
fax: +39 051239530
 
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