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Re: constant temperature unwanted
- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:49:57 -0700 (PDT)
- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:55:23 -0600
- From: hgjh kgkgf <arkokaffee@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: constant temperature unwanted
Thank you very muich for your help,
But there is one think what I do not understand. I
have already made a system externaly in Iisibat. Right
now, I connect this to an Input for the temperatur of
Ventilation. The connect it with the cooling/heating
type in Prebid, I could just use an Input for limited
power at type 56 by the typicalformula: Q=m*c*/Ti-To/
I would like to turn of the heating and cooling mode
in prebid, but what inputs should I use instead? I did
not found one for an airmassflow.
What if I got an radiation system? I should connect
the massflow to some selfmade Input in Prebid, but I
do not know where. I can not just produce an Input for
massflow. It should be jused on some place in prebid.
Or am I wrong?
Hope to hear from you again. Thank you so much foryour
help!
Arko
--- David Bradley <bradley@tess-inc.com> wrote:
> Dear Arko,
> Type56 and most of the other building models are
> set up to allow
> simulation of two different things. First, you can
> obtain the building
> loads - meaning that TRNSYS computes the amount of
> energy that must be
> added to or removed from a space in order to
> maintain a set point
> temperature. As soon as you define a setpoint, the
> building models will not
> allow the zone temperatures to go above (in the case
> of a cooling setpoint)
> or below (in the case of heating) that point.
> Instead, they will report how
> much energy was required to maintain that
> temperature. Essentially you are
> defining some ideal heating and cooling equipment
> for the building. The
> zone temperature will float between the two
> setpoints. If you want the
> building temperature to float without bounds, then
> you can either make the
> setpoints very high for cooling and very low for
> heating (insuring that the
> equipment will never turn on) or, you can turn off
> heating and cooling in
> Prebid and define your system externally.
> Cheers,
> David
>
> At 06:39 AM 9/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Dear Trnsys users,
> >
> >I try to simulate an air heating and cooling system
> in a building. (Type
> >56) It has good u-values and 4 Zones. Convective
> Part of heating system is
> >100%.
> >
> >I made an Input for the set point (20 Wintertime,
> 26 Summertime) of the
> >Zone temperature and connected it to Equation/Type
> 14. What I do not
> >understand is, that the temperature in this
> building is exact on the
> >desired setpoint temperature. Usually it should not
> be that, because walls
> >store energy and the dead Band is 2 Kelvin. Why is
> there no thermal
> >behavior of that building?
> >
> >Thank you for consideration, I hope to hear from
> anybody soon.
> >
> >Arko K
> >
> >PS
> >
> >Also, I would like to know which Type is the best
> for a simulation of a
> >PAC-unit.
> >
> >
> >
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