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Re: a qustion
- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:43:12 -0600
- From: Michaël Kummert <kummert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: a qustion
Fardin,
What’s different between algebraic tank (type38), stratified fluid
storage tank (type4) shapely?
Which one is suitable to use for small water heating system please?
Type 4 and Type 38 are different models of the same component (a
stratified fluid storage tank): Type 4 uses fixed nodes and calculates a
mass and energy balance of each node at each time step. Type 38 uses the
"plug-flow" method, i.e. using variable size segments of fluid (please
refer to the TRNSYS manual for more details).
Type 38 can model horizontal and vertical cylindrical tanks, while Type
4 is restricted to vertical cylindrical tanks. But Type 4 offers more
options (2 different thermostats, variable insulation, 2 inlets and 2
outlets at different heights, etc.)
Type 4 is usually the first model that users try to simulate a simple
Domestic Hot Water System (solar or not). Its main limitation is that it
uses a fixed time step (the TRNSYS time step) and fixed nodes, so it can
become numerically unstable if you have high volume flowrates,
especially if you use a large number of nodes (e.g. 10). The solution in
that case is usually to decrease the timestep (e.g. from 1 hour to 25
min) or to decrease the number of nodes (which reduces the maximum
stratification that you can take into account).
Type 60 solves that problem by using its own time step. In addition,
Type 60 allows you to simulate internal heat exchangers and it has two
options for vertical and horizontal cylindrical tanks. Type 60 is
usually the second model that users try when they want more than what
Type 4 has to offer. It is a little more complex to configure than Type
4, though. I must say that I do not have much experience using Type 38.
I hope this helps,
Michaël Kummert
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